Understand
that Lilith and Eve go hand-in-hand in the story from Genesis – you can’t have
one without the other. Some aspect of
Eve very often shows up in the house where Lilith resides – in the 9th
House, this is more obvious than in other houses, for some reason.
One’s view
of Eve can be influenced by how much one identifies with traditional
feminism. Conservative women aspire to
be Eve, and in my view, her gifts to a native should never be
underestimated. Feminists feel more
uncomfortable with her “help-meet” status, and since the 1960’s, they have
turned to Lilith as an “antidote” to Eve.
This is good, in the sense that Lilith has been rehabilitated to some
degree, and her astrological gifts are finally being recognized. But it’s also scary, because a liberal view
of Lilith downplays her demonic darkness – the value judgments of an ancient
culture are intact for a reason, and people who think a modern reinterpretation
will sanitize Lilith are mistaken.
A Few
Observations
Looking around on the Internet, I noted
various observations:
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Wants to transcend all limits. Needs to be revolutionary in ideas; not
solely interested in power for its own sake.
These people can complete change the shape of an ideology or an
industry.
·
Drops out of higher educations because
they are bored – not motivated to stick it out when there are “better things to
do”. This is a real issue for young
people who need a degree, and really don’t have better options.
·
Gets along on sharp instincts and shrewd
intuition when it comes to figuring out people and things.
·
Sometimes a tendency to encounter
Lilith-types on long-distance travel.
·
A number of the women tend to marry
higher status men, or men who are older and richer. This is the woman who marries the boss –
women with this placement have an instinct for men who can act as gurus and
further their careers.
·
A surprising number of women with this
placement either do not remarry after their first marriage, or do not get
married at all.
Revolutionaries
in Ideas
Martin Luther King
One of the most famous icons in American
history, he was convinced that non-violent resistance could end segregation in
America. His “I Have a Dream” speech
established him as one of the greatest orators in American history – “I Have a
Dream” is a classic summation of 9th House Lilith with a clear
vision. In 1964, he became the youngest
person to receive the Nobel Peace Prize at age 35.
Che Guevara
He was a South American Marxist leader of
Cuban and international guerillas. He
was trained as a doctor in Argentina, and encountered many dispossessed,
“cast-out” peasants while travelling around South America as a young man. After
lending his revolutionary glamour to the Cuban Revolution, he left Cuba in
1965, intent on spreading the Marxist Revolution. He was captured in a military operation
supported by the CIA and US Special Forces in Bolivia, and purportedly executed
by the Bolivian Army in 1967.
Guevara was darkly handsome as a young
man (a consort of Lilith?), and his images became synonymous with revolutionary
ideals – his picture on a T-Shirt identified the wearer as a “rebel with a
cause” and as an “alternative” liberal through the 1980’s and 1990’s in the United
States, decades after his death.
Oprah Winfrey
·
Host of the Oprah Winfrey Show, the most
influential talk show on American television.
·
Ranked the richest African-American of
the 20th century, and the only black billionaire for three
consecutive years.
·
Her Book Club has had a huge influence on
what types of books sell in America; her ideals shape the books that publishers
select to publish.
·
President Obama courted her attention
before the 2008 election, realizing that he would need her tacit seal of approval
in order to win.
Need I say anymore?
Margaret Thatcher
She changed the power structure in
England completely by destroying powerful unions in deeply entrenched
working-class factory cities, and promoting the growth of a wealthy banking
class instead. She was also not the
feminist leader that women were hoping for (shape-shifting Lilith took an
unfamiliar shape indeed).
Thatcher made tactical errors – including
big ones that led to her resignation, but her sharp intuition was behind some
of her best decisions – like realizing that the Euro was bound to become a
“train wreck”, and making sure that Britain didn’t go near it.
Like many 9th House Lilith
women, Thatcher also had an instinct for snagging a man who could teach her and
further her career. Her Wikipedia
article notes, “At a dinner
following her formal adoption as Conservative candidate for Dartford in
February 1951 she met Denis Thatcher, a successful and wealthy divorced
businessman, who drove her to her Essex train.”
Note the contrast between a political
leader like Margaret Thatcher and 10th House Lilith Angela Merkel, a
conventional politician who keeps the German economic powerhouse on track and
on top. Thatcher’s leadership style was
far more innovative and controversial.
Thomas Edison
Lilith’s gift to Edison was the genius of
innovation, a golden talent for mental shape-shifting that generated endless
new forms which had a huge impact on mankind.
He invented the phonograph, the motion picture camera, and a
long-lasting light bulb, AND he perceived a way to distribute
electric power by building a power station, a development that made modern
industrial society possible, AND he became the fourth most
prolific inventor in history, with 1093 US patents to his name, AND
he founded 14 companies, including General Electric, one of the largest
publically traded companies in the world – you get the picture.
Also note that Thomas Edison only had
about three months of formal schooling before his mother withdrew him due to
his inability to focus, and told him to study at home with her. As the youngest of seven children, he began part-time
employment around age 7. As a pre-teen,
he was conducting chemical experiments on a train when he should have been
working, and by age 16, he left home to take a job as a telegraph operator.
Edward Snowden
One
thing that worries a lot of us is a vast, silent, cyber war that could make US
civilians victims of our own government or secret spy agencies. Edward Snowden was a hyper-smart rebel who got bored of high school and dropped out (his father claims that he missed too much class time due to illness, but I suspect that public school had little to offer a teenager with his talents). Despite his lack of formal schooling, the young computer whiz somehow managed to obtain top-secret clearances, and eventually went to work at Booz, Allen with the admitted intent to steal national security secrets.
Snowden has picked up Julian Assange’s torch,
but the American public still does not know all of the info he took with him on
his sojourn across the world – first Hong Kong, then Russia, with hopes for
Ecuador. He finally managed an
undisclosed deal with Putin, in order to remain in Russia, and one can only
hope that the Russian government treats him reasonably well. Snowden’s 9th House BML fits like
a glove – he is a maverick who hopes to overthrow the existing system, he lives
immersed in a shadow world of spooks, and he meets the dangerous, seductive
Lilith in long-distance travel – it still remains to be seen whether Snowden or
Putin will have the upper hand.
My Note: How does he differ from Julian Assange, in terms of natal Lilith?
Both men have been described as heroes, whistleblowers, and dissidents. Snowden has also been described as a traitor and a patriot - his idealism is more in question because he took on his own nation's government.
Assange has BML conjunct Pluto right on the 11th House cusp. His personality has been described as difficult to work with - on a personal level, he was strongly disliked by upper management in the NY Times even before they published parts of his trove, and he was also in conflict with some members of his volunteer staff at Wikileaks. On a public level, he is hated by the American government, but widely admired by other governments, and by many people worldwide.
Snowden doesn't have the same 11th House BML "people issues". He is far more articulate than Assange, even though both men are highly intelligent, and is perceived as being less of a "weirdo". As a 9th House Lilith, he may also continue to enjoy greater freedom of movement between countries than the grounded Assange does.
My Note: How does he differ from Julian Assange, in terms of natal Lilith?
Both men have been described as heroes, whistleblowers, and dissidents. Snowden has also been described as a traitor and a patriot - his idealism is more in question because he took on his own nation's government.
Assange has BML conjunct Pluto right on the 11th House cusp. His personality has been described as difficult to work with - on a personal level, he was strongly disliked by upper management in the NY Times even before they published parts of his trove, and he was also in conflict with some members of his volunteer staff at Wikileaks. On a public level, he is hated by the American government, but widely admired by other governments, and by many people worldwide.
Snowden doesn't have the same 11th House BML "people issues". He is far more articulate than Assange, even though both men are highly intelligent, and is perceived as being less of a "weirdo". As a 9th House Lilith, he may also continue to enjoy greater freedom of movement between countries than the grounded Assange does.
Those Who
Attract the Sleazy Side of Lilith
Lilith is naturally at home with the
energy of Saturn (and also Pluto). When
it comes to Jupiter, the “fit” isn’t as perfect. Lilith can grant a bonanza in the 9th,
as it harnesses the energy of Jupiter, a god known for transcending limits and
generating a multitude of new forms. But
often the expression is twisted and surprising – Lilith is “tainted” by
Jupiter’s energy, to some degree, with sordid results.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn
Former managing director of the IMF, and
at one point, a strong contender for the French Presidency, DSK brought about
his own downfall through chronically seeking encounters with Lilith-like women
while he travelled in France and outside of it.
He met his match in Nafissatou Diallo, a
shady “ho” who was given a strict upbringing in Guinea, the country where I did
my Peace Corps service. Her personality is revealed “between the lines” in a
New York Times article. Diallo, the
daughter of an imam, was so quiet and secretive that “Even if she were hungry,
she wouldn’t tell you.” As a teenager,
she somehow made it to sexually liberal Conakry, only to be called home by her
father two months later for marriage.
Her husband died a year or so later, and Diallo escaped back to Conakry,
apparently with enough connections for a US visa. Once in the US, she became either a
hard-working maid who had the misfortune of being DSK’s victim, or a woman who
was laundering drug-money while she made a stink about DSK, in hopes of a large
payout, which she got. You decide…
And Others…
Roman Polanski had to leave the US to avoid prosecution
for sex with a minor. Charlie
Sheen, born Ramon Estevez, a child actor in a family of actors who was
booted from school for poor grades and lousy attendance, and who boasted of
having sex with over 5000 women. Arthur
Rimbaud had a steamy affair with the poet Paul Verlaine while still a
teen-ager – Verlaine deserted his wife and child, but the relationship was so
out of control that it ended with the 18-year-old Rimbaud accusing Verlaine of
assault, and Verlaine doing two years in jail.
Sylvia Browne
In all fairness, the sleaze factor also
taints some women with a 9th House Lilith. One who immediately comes to mind is Sylvia
Browne. Like many readers, I was blown
away by her description of Heaven in Life
on the Other Side, and really wanted to believe that she was gifted with a
special sight, and in turn shared her gift with others through vivid
descriptions of the best the Afterlife has to offer. Her vision of a “woman in blue” – a South
American Indian woman who she believes lived around 500 years ago, was
breathtaking. As a Catholic, I felt
closer to Mary when I read this. Part of
me still believes in her books – they are so spiritually uplifting.
Yet Browne’s Mars is partile conjunct my
Ascendant, and her Neptune is three degrees away, so I felt particularly angry
(Mars), and deceived (Neptune), when I discovered the securities fraud and
grand larceny in her background – Browne has a debilitated Venus in Scorpio
partile conjunct her MC (a vision of a spirit guide in stunning blue recalls
both Mary and Venus). Others have complained that her church ministers seem way too concerned about the money during psychic sessions where the audience would rather focus on deeply emotional questions. Her Other Side books are so good that I had a hard time accepting the truth – Sylvia Browne is the Martha Stewart of Heaven! “Wise serpent” Lilith and the “snake in the grass” are both operating in typical 9th House fashion.
Ladies Who Have
“Talent In Their Knickers”
Here’s the thing about Lilith in the 9th
house – the women “put out” signals of Eve to powerful, wealthy, higher status
men who would never be attracted to Lilith, yet to a large extent, they don’t
get trapped in an Eve role. This is the
big difference between the 9th and 10th House as far as
Lilith is concerned – 10th House Lilith women largely eschew the Eve
archetype.
The women below all carved out their own
niche – they use Eve to get what they want, but some of them manage to surpass
her, too, using sharp instincts and shrewd intuition. Another thing to note is that most of them
exploit the Eve role when they are very young
- Condoleeza Rice being the exception.That said, this is a “tricky” position for Lilith, where Eve casts a long shadow. Ordinary, non-celebrity women, particularly those who had little interest in school, may find that Eve comes naturally, and don’t aspire to more.
Coco Chanel
Chanel generated new forms in fashion
design the way Thomas Edison generated new inventions. Her suits, hats,
handbags, and signature scent, Chanel No. 5, all became iconic items, and her
Wikipedia entry notes that she was the only fashion designer to appear on Time
Magazine’s list of 100 most influential people in the 20th century.
Chanel was born illegitimate and dirt
poor – at a time when illegitimacy still mattered. Thus Lilith was operating right from her
birth. She was placed in a convent for orphaned and abandoned girls at age 12,
where she learned to sew. The convent
discipline didn’t stick, however. As soon
as she left, she made straight for the cabaret, where she got her name “Coco”,
derived from the French cocotte, or “kept
woman”.
Chanel hooked up with a French cavalry
officer and wealthy textile heir by age 23, giving his current mistress the
boot. She also snagged the role of
mistress with one of his close friends, and this man’s sartorial style inspired
the early conception of the Chanel look.
Chanel would become the influential mistress of a lot of men, whom she
exploited for money and connections, but her couture design business was
profitable from the start due to her own business acumen. She never married – Lilith won out over Eve.
Kate Middleton
Kate is a total Eve – her Wikipedia entry
notes that she got the name “Waity Katy” from the British media for her apparent lack of work ethic and
unwillingness to work – when the truth is that getting a marriage proposal was her
full-time job from age 18, and she wasn’t going to waste it on anybody unworthy.
Kate strikes me as an extremely shrewd
operator. And Lilith shows up in the
Palace decision to make her first-born child heir to the throne even if it is a
daughter – Kate herself was certainly behind that huge leap into the modern
era.
Priscilla Presley
Priscilla met Elvis when she was 14. The rest of her adolescence was not wasted –
by the time she was 18, she was living in a house with his relatives instead of
her own. She married at 22, had a baby
at 23, and she and Elvis had agreed on a separation by the time she was
27. She had enough talent for a limited career
in her own right, but her platform was undoubtedly based on that early marriage
to Elvis. She had a number of other
affairs with wealthy men, but did not remarry.
Lilith may have had an impact on her choice of church as well – she was
a spokesperson for the Church of Scientology.
Condoleeza Rice
As the first black Secretary of State,
and the second female to hold the job, Rice was briefly considered one of the
most powerful women in the world. Other than the fact that she never married,
there is no overt link to Lilith. She is
also a very private person, and almost no information is available on her
personal life. But for many years, it
was whispered that she and George “Dubya” Bush had a sporadic and extremely
discreet affair. In their Style section,
the Washington Post carefully reported a word-for-word transcript of she and
Dubya finishing each other’s sentences.
The White House made no comment.
Coming Up Next:
Lilith in the Eighth House: The Elitist
What Did I Miss?
Lilith in the 10th House: Where Lilith is Shape-Shifting Boss
SOURCES
For a look at celebrities with 9th House BML:
Astrotheme Horoscopes of Celebrities with 9th House Lilith
This is an interesting New York Times profile on a journalist-filmmaker duo behind Edward Snowden, both of whom now avoid living in the United States.
How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Quick "Toot Toot" for my old blog, Slushpile Astrology:
There are a lot of interesting, accessible articles here, including a four-part series "Help for Vedic Beginners", a great article on astrology in the fashion industry (how and when to shop for certain colors), and the series on Marilyn Monroe which inspired me to look further into Lilith, and figure out what makes her unique in each zodiac house. Astrology lovers with an afternoon free could do worse than kicking back with a pot of tea while they surf my old site.
Coming Up Next:
Lilith in the Eighth House: The Elitist
What Did I Miss?
Lilith in the 10th House: Where Lilith is Shape-Shifting Boss
SOURCES
For a look at celebrities with 9th House BML:
Astrotheme Horoscopes of Celebrities with 9th House Lilith
This is an interesting New York Times profile on a journalist-filmmaker duo behind Edward Snowden, both of whom now avoid living in the United States.
How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Quick "Toot Toot" for my old blog, Slushpile Astrology:
There are a lot of interesting, accessible articles here, including a four-part series "Help for Vedic Beginners", a great article on astrology in the fashion industry (how and when to shop for certain colors), and the series on Marilyn Monroe which inspired me to look further into Lilith, and figure out what makes her unique in each zodiac house. Astrology lovers with an afternoon free could do worse than kicking back with a pot of tea while they surf my old site.
I really love your analysis. As a 9th house Lilith I can say that what you wrote above really rings true for me. My True Lilith - as oppose to Mean Lilith - falls in to mine 8th house. So I really hope you continue writing about Lilith in houses and her role in astrology!!!
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