Lilith in the 5th House: The Lottery Winner

They say I’m a beast.

And feast on it.

When all along

I thought that’s what a woman was.

They say I’m a bitch.

Or witch. I’ve claimed

the same and never winced.

They say I’m a macha,

hell on wheels, viva-la-vulva,

fire and brimstone, man-hating, devastating,

boogey-woman lesbian.

Not necessarily,

but I like the compliment.

                                    -Excerpt from “Loose Woman” by Sandra Cisernos

Keywords for 5^th House Lilith

Miscarriages, abortions, adoption, infant death, Black Madonna, stage mothers, lullaby (word with the same root as “Lilith), beloved by demons, slave mothers, special gifts, unusual luck, sorrow through children, women are Eve, men are Adam, special knack for games or other creative pursuits

A Few Observations:

·         Incredible luck at least once

·         Eve is powerful here

·         Trust Issues – Suspicion and paranoia are part of the personality.  But so is a warm, outgoing, natural leadership style.

·         Gets a “black sheep” child

·         Accused of being phony

·         Boost for artists and writers

·         Good at games of many kinds

·         Physical appearance of Lilith

Luck

Some of these people get undeserved luck – they marry far above their station, or they inherit a property and never know what it is like to have to pay rent or a mortgage.  Frequently, these folks find a way to surround themselves with luxury, or at least a certain level of comfort, without having to work very hard for it.

Example:  George Washington

He got very lucky twice.  After his father and older brother died, he “became personally and professionally attached” to the powerful Lord Fairfax as a teenager.  At age 17, Fairfax helped him get appointed surveyor of Culpepper County, a well-paid position that allowed him to start purchasing land in Virginia.  Then, at age 27, he married a wealthy 28 year old widow, Martha Custis – the marriage instantly made him one of the most powerful planters in Virginia.

Eve

For women, this is the strongest position of Eve in the 12 Houses.  Many female natives marry dominant men and remain at least outwardly submissive in their marriages.  There is an attraction to partners who are possessive and controlling.  This can be a very co-dependent position for women.

Recall that mythic Eve needs a dominant husband, but still has a strong need for center-stage (natural energy of the 5^th House is Leo, and Leo needs attention and a stage on which to perform).  She also has trouble with her kids – her son Cain was forced to leave his family after killing his brother Abel.

“Trust Issues”

To varying degrees, an element of paranoia and suspicion shows up in the personality – what one might expect of a “lottery winner”.  This person finds it very hard to trust people outside the family, and he or she may not even trust certain family members.  They don’t encourage intimate friendships because of “trust issues”, but are frequently superb networkers with a very wide sphere of casual friends.

Lack of Authenticity

When Lilith “taints” the natural energy of the 5^th House, which is all about the pure expression of identity associated with the Sun, there is a perceived lack of authenticity.  The person gets called a “phony”, which may or may not be deserved.

Example:  Cat Stevens

He was “outed” for hypocrisy when he condoned a fatwa against Salman Rushdie for his book, “The Satanic Verses”.  He then backpedaled, saying his statement reflected his naivete as a “new Muslim”; at the time, he had only been practicing Islam for 11 years!

Men Attract Lilith Partners

This isn’t every guy with this placement.  But some men will have strong Lilith experiences, usually through a first wife or first serious girlfriend.

Example:  John Steinbeck

In the character of “Cathy”, he created one of the most chilling depictions of Lilith in his great American novel, “East of Eden”.  Many commentators suspect his first wife was the inspiration.

Example:  Keanu Reeves

His first child was stillborn, and his girlfriend died in a horrendous car accident just a few months later.

Example:  Hugh Jackman

After his wife had two miscarriages, the couple decided it was safer and easier to adopt their children.

Physical Appearance

Many natives have coloring that recalls Lilith (either very dark or red hair), no matter what sign is on the Ascendant or planets are in the 1^st House.  Many also tend to have the lithe bodies associated with Lilith.  Anne Frank had 5^th House true Lilith, and photos of her reveal the essence of Lilith as a young girl, in my opinion.

“Smoking Hot” Trophy Guys

There may be more sex symbols and “heart-throbs” among the men than in any other house in the zodiac.  5^th House BML hottys include:  George Clooney, Keanu Reeves, Hugh Jackman (People Magazine voted him “Sexiest Man Alive”), Bruce Lee, Ben Affleck, Antonio Banderas, Heath Ledger (a notable blond exception), Cat Stevens, Frank Zappa, Iggy Pop, Humphrey Bogart, Howard Stern, and Burt Reynolds.

Younger readers may need to go back and look at pictures of some of these men when they were young to see how gorgeous they were.

Artists and Writers

Artists and writers seem to get a boost from this placement.  In contrast to the 6^th House, where the artist often gets an early “Big Break” from a work with Lilith themes, the 5^th House artist or writer reveals Lilith in their mature or most widely remembered works.  Examples include Marc Chagall, Guy de Maupassant, Vladimir Nabakov, and John Steinbeck.

Problems with the Kids

A lot of 5^th House Lilith natives are natural leaders with warm, outgoing personalities who don’t really begin to experience the downside of Lilith until they are old enough to get feedback from their kids.

5^th House Lilith may get a child who strongly does not “fit in” with his siblings or the rest of the family – a “black sheep”.  Most often, this indicates that one child (not necessarily the first child) will be a real “problem kid” who does not outgrow his or her “issues” in adulthood.  More positively, I have seen this in the natal charts of people who adopt a child.  The child does not “fit” the family in terms of physical appearance, and may also embrace a world-view, behavioral pattern, communication style, or possibly a political orientation different from that of the adoptive family, but this does not mean that the adoption is a disaster, although it may be more of a challenge.

Another way that this manifests is that the parent manipulates their kids, and the kids quickly figure out how to manipulate the parent, sometimes out-doing the parent at his or her own game by the time they hit middle school.  The kids are quick to spot any “phony” attitudes in the 5^th House Lilith parent, and either point it out, or find a way to exploit it. 

Example:  Bill Gates

Bill Gates has a 5^th House BML, and one can only wonder about his stated belief in giving 97% of his fortune to charity, in order to minimize the amount inherited by his children.  His children are still pretty young, but it will be interesting to see if they make their views on the issue public as they emerge into early adulthood.

Or the person decides on no kids, no way!  Some 5^th House natives feel even more restlessness with regard to children than 11^th House Lilith typically does.

Example:  George Clooney

He has $20,000 bets with various friends that he will never have any children.

Interestingly, I have not seen this Lilith placement show up much in the natal charts of parents whose children have autism or Asperger’s Syndrome.  There seems to be something else going on, and Lilith does NOT appear to be a marker for these disorders.

 Lilith in the American Experience

Something must be said about the power of Lilith in the US Sibley horoscope, where Lilith is conjunct Chiron (the wound that doesn’t heal) by less than a degree in the 3^rd House.  The picture featured at the top of this article was chosen with this in mind.

Unfortunately, I do not know the artist who did Zhinni (Black Lilith).

Jewish sources on Lilith recall an amazingly fertile woman whose children were taken away from her and killed, causing her to have even more children who suffered the same fate.  The United States had the unique misfortune of bringing this myth to life when black women had their children taken away from them and “sold down the river” for over 150 years.  These children were not killed, but they were effectively dead to their parents who never saw them again.

The fact that this conjunction occurs in the 3^rd House, with its associations of siblings and neighbors, says something about how deeply the secretive Lilith permeates the fabric of American society.

Many people have commented that the United States has a greater problem with “missing children”, the majority of whom are found dead or never found at all, than any other modern Western nation.  The author can’t help but connect this tragedy to the collective karma from our past experience with slavery – Lilith has acquired some of Chiron’s famed immortality, and she will always be a potent force on American soil.

The Lottery Winner

As with Lilith in the 10^th House, 5^th House Lilith can be a real grab-bag.  Some of these folks have children.  Some make sure they don’t.  Eve shows up strongly, and makes a lousy mom.  Adam, the alpha male, arrives, but may not find the reception he expected.  Lilith can slither and twist in this house like nobody’s business.

This makes it hard to spot underlying themes.  I started wondering if there were any in this house.

Artists and writers get a boost from this placement, but many natives have no out-of-the-ordinary creativity.    Instead, there may be a knack for games, a bit of the card shark, a love of chess, a golf scholarship to college, or just a strong need to achieve the physical appearance of Lilith.

Having kids and raising them is how most people deal with this placement, but that experience is different for everyone.  If the native had undeserved luck early in life, his or her friends may be rather glad that at least he or she didn’t turn out to be the perfect parent as well. 5^th House Lilith often has a 6^th sense about other people’s envy; hence the paranoia or problems with trust.  And then there’s the perceived phony, fake quality that others find so annoying.

One recent President fits the bill on all of the above description:

George “Dubya” Bush

The 5^th House poster-child cruised through Yale on a “C” average, and had a blast flying planes for the Texas Air National Guard, despite his low pilot aptitude test scores and irregular attendance.  In this, he was like George Clooney, who chose baseball over school, and Bill Gates, who chose computers over Harvard.  5^th House BML will put their natural luck over academic performance, the same way that 9^th House Lilith gets bored quickly in school and tries to find more shrewd options for getting ahead.

Dubya lucked out with a total Eve when he picked Laura Welsh, a woman very unlike his mother, and he credited his quiet, polished wife with “smoothing out his rough edges”.  Laura was such an Eve that she helped catalyze her husband’s latent Adam.  She gave him two sweet girls, fraternal twins.  Bubbly, blonde Jenna is the “spitting image” of her mother.  The polished and very pretty Barbara has Laura’s temperament, but she does not look like either of her parents.  It didn’t take long for people to start whispering that neither child was Dubya’s.

At least once in their career or in their life, 5^th House Lilith gets a piece of incredible, life-changing luck.  Dubya got his in 2000 against Al Gore.  Even though he had lost the popular vote by more than a half a million votes, he won the Florida recount by 537 votes out of six million votes cast (talk about hitting the lottery)!  This handed him the Electoral College vote necessary to win the Presidency.

Let’s get back to Dubya’s kids for a moment.  An echo of the ancient Adam and Eve surfaces, because Cain did not really “fit” into his family of origin, and finally became so alienated that he killed his brother and fled the land where his parents and remaining brother, Seth, were living.

His daughter Barbara developed an ultra-liberal ideology at Yale, and began publicly opposing her father’s policies while he was still President.  The White House responded by isolating itself from her, and playing up media coverage of Jenna.  For years, it was whispered that Barbara was staying out of the public eye deliberately, but it is more likely that the White House simply wanted nothing to do with her.

Jenna married a man her father could totally approve of, and produced a daughter; Barbara has been involved with spectacularly unsuitable men, and at this point it seems unlikely that her parents would rejoice in a grandchild.

Dubya may have even had his own Lilith – see my mention of Condoleeza Rice in 8th House Lilith: The Elitist.

He has also had the most low-profile retirement of any recent President, and one can only imagine how this must hurt a 5^th House Lilith who loves the stage.  To pass the time, he took up oil painting, and some of his self-portraits are surprisingly good.  Even liberal commentators rather snidely remarked that his paintings reflect the self-reflection that was so little on display when he was President.  My own feeling is that Dubya’s paintings are a quiet rebuke of all the people who called him a not-so-bright phony over the years.

One More Note on 5^th House Lilith

Just a personal note about natives (mostly women, in my experience) with this position:

No one takes their luck for granted more than 5^th House Lilith.  Talk to these natives when they are young, and they will truthfully tell you that they have never received any special breaks.  As they get older, however, they do often receive a life-changing, lucky break, whether they recognize it or not.

This is the lady who spends less than five years as a self-supporting adult before getting married to a man who pays all the bills, but who will not acknowledge that her part-time job income is “pocket money”.  Or it is the lady who remarries a wonderful man who agrees to raise a posse of children who are not his.  When this luck is either not acknowledged, or presented in a way that says, "I'm better than you", the “spoiled” aspect of Eve is often perceived by others (mostly women, in my experience).  Word to the wise.

Nobody Writes Lilith Like a 5^th House Lilith...

East of Eden by John Steinbeck

Cathy, the wife of Adam Trask, is so famous she has her own Wikipedia entry.  Her creator, John Steinbeck, outdid himself with the sociopathic Cathy, who became his most well-known character.

Young Cathy frames two boys for an attempt to rape her.  She also robs the family safe and burns down the family home while her parents are still trapped inside, killing them.  She then takes off with a pimp, and when he beats her within an inch of her life, Adam Trask steps in to save her.  His brother Charles, who senses what Cathy is, tries to discourage Adam, but Adam ignores him.

Adam marries Cathy to get her out “of her situation”, and Cathy thanks him by drugging him into a deep sleep and then has sex with Charles.  Months later, she is pregnant (it isn’t clear by whom), and tries to give herself a primitive abortion with a knitting needle.  It fails, so she has the twins, Cal and Aron, and then promptly abandons the babies and her husband. 

“East of Eden” is a great tale of Lilith, but it was pretty racy stuff in 1952, when it was first published, and the book was continually banned from county and school libraries for decades afterwards.

Guy de Maupassant

When I was a teenager with no experience of boyfriends, I loved his short stories because there was always a “twist” at the end, and because there was a wealth of experience on display that I had no personal knowledge of, so naturally I was fascinated with it all.

There was a story about a young bride who glimpses her husband’s first wife in a café, and begins to understand for the first time that her husband is this woman’s “left-over”, and that it isn’t so hot being a second wife.

There was another story about a famous Parisian prostitute who ends up sitting with a bunch of bourgeois hypocrites in a coach, and they all refuse to share any food with her or even sit with her (the ultimate Lilith experience in food-mad France).

There was another story about a doctor who tells a young wife a tale about how he tricked a husband by helping him to carry his wife’s unconscious (actually dead) lover out of the house to his carriage.  The husband never figures it out, and neither does the lover’s family.  At the end of the story, the patient exclaims, “Why have you told me this terrible story?”  And the doctor bows gallantly, saying, “So that I may offer you my services, if necessary.”

If Steinbeck created one outstanding Lilith, de Maupassant wrote about hundreds of little Liliths, mostly engaged in the extra-curricular activity the French love most.

What's Next?

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Lilith in the 6th House:  The Executive

SOURCES:

You be the judge of Dubya’s talent.  This author thinks he’s pretty good.  He’s better than me, anyway:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/files/2013/02/Barney.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/02/08/george-w-bush-not-the-first-presidential-painter/&h=2620&w=1968&sz=709&tbnid=SSdJiBjMR5pe-M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=68&prev=/search%3Fq%3DImages%2Bof%2BGeorge%2BW%2BBush's%2Bself-portraits%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Images+of+George+W+Bush's+self-portraits&usg=__YwgsTVPpJI14cIOpSZMT2wH6ZeQ=&docid=Ie3xyRVOmExcJM&sa=X&ei=HeSsUdjgNIfI4AOvr4CgAg&ved=0CFYQ9QEwDQ&dur=1676

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.artinfo.com/artintheair/files/2013/02/bushart1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.artinfo.com/artintheair/2013/02/08/hacker-reveals-george-w-bushs-surprisingly-good-bathroom-self-portrait-paintings/&h=750&w=600&sz=75&tbnid=TbyLKl0LltcMSM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=72&prev=/search%3Fq%3DImages%2Bof%2BGeorge%2BW%2BBush's%2Bself-portraits%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Images+of+George+W+Bush's+self-portraits&usg=__KTQcOPCkkc0eGpzbtFZ2B38QcDY=&docid=1ak6p8WEUbp6MM&sa=X&ei=HeSsUdjgNIfI4AOvr4CgAg&ved=0CEYQ9QEwCA&dur=208

An article on Dubya’s daughter, Barbara, and her graffiti artist boyfriend:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2247596/Barbara-Bush-graffiti-artist-lover-The-pictures.html

Phony Internet photos of 16 year old Jennifer Gates, daughter of Bill Gates (with a little twist of Lilith):

http://kimbleslawofvictories.blogspot.com/2012/03/rumoured-daughter-real-daughter-of-bill.html

Two of Guy de Maupassant’s short stories that I mentioned are noted here:

http://melmoththelost.dreamwidth.org/40692.html

Many of de Maupassant’s short stories are now in the public domain.  The Australian website may be the better selection of the two.  Read them here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3090/3090-h/3090-h.htm

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/maupassant/guy/index.html

Poem “Loose Woman” by Sandra Cisernos – the whole, over-the-top, 1980’s feminist poem is quoted here, and Lilith fans will love it:

http://mysticmedusa.com/2012/05/loose-woman/

Lilith in the 6th House: The Executive

A golden, perfect, corporate image of Lilith - very enticing and sexy!

A Few Observations

·         Normally strong career orientation, and extremely hard workers.  This is THE hardest working Lilith, even more so than 8^th House Lilith.  It is NOT a relaxed placement!!

·         Exceptionally strong talent for self-preservation.  The natural energy of Virgo in the 6^th House understands all about the perception of “wheat v. chaff”, and this Lilith will remain on top somehow, even if he or she loses a job, or several.

·         These are natural executives, given the chance.  Quoted from Tribe.net.

·         Good at offbeat professions.  A typical profile might be a business executive with a youthful background in bodybuilding (Arnold Schwarzenegger), sailing boats around the Pacific, or making a $500 movie and showing it a local theater for $1 a ticket (16 year old Steven Spielberg).

·         Some of these people have incredibly long and varied careers across many industries, or experience working every job in a given industry (Steven Spielberg) – Lilith is a “shape-shifter” who gets easily restless.  If this person is bored, he or she switches jobs quick. 

·         Begins work at a young age, and doesn’t waste a lot of time in retirement.

·         Little patience for the mindless, boring, routine jobs that many young people are expected to put up with while “paying dues” in a profession upon graduation from college.

·         Occasionally, Lilith is channeled through one’s creative output “on the job”.   Stephen King’s first novel, Carrie, is one of the most powerful explorations of Lilith in modern American literature.  He wrote it while living in a trailer, and his wife had to get the manuscript out of the trash after he received a $2500 advance from Doubleday.  When Doubleday resold the paperback rights for $400,000 in 1973, and King got the news that he would receive half that amount, it changed their lives forever.

·         Likes having sex with the servants - Arnold Schwarzenegger, who slept with the nanny, or Hillary Clinton, who was rumored to have been involved with her former personal assistant, Huma Abedin.

·         Strong experience of Lilith in childhood, in some cases.  The native is either rejected by their teachers, or hurt by their teachers in some way (six year old JonBenet Ramsey was killed by a teacher).  Or the child gets a mentor with Lilith-like qualities, one who shelters, guides, and protects the native during exposure to dangerous activities in childhood, or during development of their own Lilith-like qualities (Helena Blavatsky, Barack Obama).

·         7^th House Lilith gets a perfectionist partner with a rebellious or restless nature.  6^th House Lilith is a perfectionist whose restlessness or rebellion gets channeled on the job.

6^th House Lilith in Action

Let’s take a look at how many of the above attributes of 6^th House Lilith operate in the life of our current President, Barack Obama.  Obama not only enjoys Black Moon Lilith in one of its strongest house placements, the 6^th House, but his BML is partile conjunct Mercury at 2 degrees Leo, which strengthens it further, and both are partile conjunct an obscure fixed star, Talitha.  Having BML partile conjunct a planet and a fixed star is fairly rare, so an astrologer should start paying attention – this unusual configuration is important.  It does not explain how he became President, but it does shed a lot of light on how he chooses to wield power.

Barack Obama

In a nutshell, Lilith gives Obama’s Mercury its shape-shifting quality – he is an extremely facile communicator who appeases the liberals of his party while quietly agreeing with a more conservative agenda.  Obama is said to admire Ronald Reagan more than any other recent President, and aspects of his leadership do recall Reagan’s way of getting things done.  In the wake of the Newtown massacre, for example, much of the new anti-gun legislation died in committee, largely because Obama would not get behind it – he enjoys shooting military grade weapons at Camp David, and does not favor curbing the rights of legal gun owners.

Talitha is a lesser-known fixed star set smack in the paw of the Ursa Major constellation.  One thinks of a grizzly bear with a wicked fast paw.  An Arabic story behind this star refers to the “third leap of the gazelle”, which tells of a startled gazelle that leaped to three different points in the constellation.  Again, the idea is of fast motion in the service of self-preservation.

Talitha also means “daughter of the assembly”.  In the gospel of Mark, a ruler of the synagogue (assembly) comes to Jesus to tell him that his little daughter is close to death, hence “the daughter of the assembly”. 

So Jesus goes to the man’s house, where the child is near death or already dead, and says “Talitha Cumi” which means “daughter arise”.  It is a story of healing, compassion, and redemption, and Obama made this his 2008 campaign message.  It reflects both the healing of nation, with regard to its legacy of slavery, and the hope that the American economy would rise from the dead after the October 2008 banking disaster – it did, but never with the same vitality.  Obama may also have tapped the energy of this minor fixed star when he chose the title of his second memoir, “The Audacity of Hope”.

Obama’s Story

Obama experienced a wandering, far-flung childhood, shuttling back and forth between his grandparents in Hawaii, and his mother and step-father in Indonesia, where he spent four years living between the ages of six and ten.  It is difficult to know who or what his childhood mentors were like – his 1995 account “Dreams of My Father” is carefully shaped and tailored to the ears of his intended audience.  The fact that his mother was a Red Diaper baby who wanted nothing to do with her own race is most graciously glossed over, and the fact that his daughter’s nickname “Sasha” was a very common codename for KGB operatives is not mentioned at all.

What is known is that Obama had a powerful experience of shifting his shape, if not his skin, in three distinct cultures while growing up – the Third World, Muslim culture of Indonesia, the white Hawaiian culture of his grand-parents who were thrilled when he was accepted to the exclusive Punahou School, a breeding ground for Hawaiian leaders for at least 200 years, and the African-American culture which he had to access on his own without help from his family.  That Obama appeared to do well in all three cultures spoke to the power of his 6^th House Lilith.  So does his wife’s revealing remark that he was “raised by wolves” – Michelle Obama is presumably privy to much of the story left out of “Dreams of My Father”.

Dreams of My Father

Not many people knew about the book when it was first published in 1995, when Obama was 34 years old.  Like most Americans, I did not pick the book up off a shelf at Barnes & Noble until it was reissued in 2004.  As I skimmed through it, glanced at the pictures, read the captions, and got a quick sense of his writing style – I felt a thrill of excitement.  Right then, I knew who had a damn good chance at the Presidency in 2008 – it was never going to be Hillary Clinton.  She was the darling of the American media, but many of the American people couldn’t stand her.

As a white American reader, I understood instinctively that Obama was publishing this book to explain exactly who he was to all Americans before asking them to vote for him as their first black President.  It was only later that I realized that this book was how he tossed his bid in the ring way back in 1995.  Obama would be elected to the state senate of Illinois less than a year after this book was published.  He was bored to tears in the Illinois Senate, and he anticipated this before even getting in the door.  This book was his way of making certain he didn’t get stuck there.  The same was true during his brief stint in the US Senate, where he accomplished very little, using the seat as a stepping-stone for his Presidential bid, and little more.  As a self-aware 6^th House Lilith, he hated “paying dues” and knew how best to switch jobs fast.

Lilith in Virgo’s Natural House (the 6th House)

Lilith has some interesting results in this house.  Some of Virgo’s qualities are magnified.  Others get twisted or tainted, similar to what happens when 9^th House Lilith meshes with the natural energy of Sagittarius.

Prolific Output from Hard Workers

Stephen King has published 50 novels and nearly 200 short stories over the course of a career that has spanned 40 years.  

Much of Steven Spielberg’s early work featured the sort of horror that was making a reputation for Stephen King as a novelist in the early 1970’s.   He got his big break with the movie “Jaws”, and has often referred to the grueling shoot as his professional crucible.  But he hit the jackpot even harder than King did; the 1975 film made him a household name, as well as one of America’s youngest multi-millionaires at the age of 31.  Spielberg is also notable for having made a film every year for the past 40 years; he is considered one of the most influential Hollywood filmmakers of all time.

In a similar fashion, Hillary Clinton has visited more countries and spent more time on a plane than any other Secretary of State with a four year term.  She reported using the flights as a chance to get work done with few interruptions, and she also apparently believed in a boots-on-the-ground strategy which emphasized face-to-face diplomacy.  While the American public remains deeply conflicted about her potential as a Presidential candidate, there seems little question that she would have made a very hard-working Commander-in-Chief.

Anderson Cooper is another 6^th House BML who seems to be everywhere at once. Whether it’s on location for his own show, or as a CNN correspondent, or as a 60 Minutes correspondent, he probably logs more time in the air than Hillary did as Secretary of State.

Problems with Employers

It isn’t so much that 6^th House Lilith fears losing a job because he or she is lazy, or not indispensable to the company.  Feeling exploited by an employer or a contract is often the bigger issue for these people.

Stephen King has switched publishers because he was convinced he wasn’t being paid what he was worth.  Later in his career, when he had more clout, he pulled the book, “Rage” from publication, and let it fall out of print, after a 14 year old boy quoted from the story before shooting and killing his teacher and two classmates.

Snoop Dogg refused to produce any more tracks for Death Row Records altogether because he was convinced he wasn’t getting his due.

Michael Jordan

Michael Jordan didn’t have his estimation of what he was worth belittled by employers, but in the eyes of many, he turned into a bit of an ass once he became the boss himself.  6^th House Lilith can be a hard person to work for.

During his first season in the NBA, the 21 year old Jordan found himself “frozen out” when most of the other players on his team refused to pass him the ball because they were envious of him.  Lilith asserts herself early in the careers of 6^th House natives.  Jordan didn’t let it get to him; he went on to win Rookie of the Year anyway.  That showed the “haters”.

While still a young man, he retired from basketball for the first time around age 30, citing exhaustion (which is how 6^th House Lilith feels when he or she is bored out of his or her mind).  He switched to baseball, and then came back two years later.  Jordan was not concerned about the money or his reputation – the ability to do something else, to shape-shift on the job, was more important.

As an older man, Jordan became the first former NBA player to ever become the majority owner of a league franchise at age 47.  His Ketu maturation delivered groundbreaking career success – see my earlier article on executives who take the final steps toward their career dream around this age.  The next year, he took a hard stance on capping players’ income, telling one team owner, “If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team.”  His team bitterly rewarded him with the worst winning percentage in NBA history that year.

Mentors Who Absorb the Power of Lilith, Thus Shielding Their Proteges

When Stephen King was two years old, his father walked out on the family.  Under the pretext of going out to buy a pack of cigarettes, he left the house, and King never saw him again.

His mother ended up a poorly paid domestic, and King grew up nearly dirt-poor.  Of his mother, and his childhood, he wrote, “We were latchkey kids before there were latchkey kids, and she was a female wage earner when, basically, women did scut work and cleaned up other people’s messes….And I got a sense of who was being taken advantage of and who was lording it over the other people.”

King would have his own career problems as an adult, including a devastating car accident which slowed his prolific output and forced him into early retirement, but it does seem that his mother was the sacrifice.  Some children with a 6^th House Lilith get a parent or mentor who deals with unusually difficult life circumstances – the child gets something of a “free pass”, but the parent or mentor is cursed, in rare cases.

Other children who cannot deflect the power of Lilith may end up dead the way Jon-Benet Ramsey did.

Why this happens in the 6^th House is difficult to pinpoint, but it is a very different expression of Lilith from what is often seen in the 4^th House, where one or more parents reject the child, or where the child finds the parents impossible to live with and rejects them as soon as he or she is old enough to be able to.  6^th House Lilith usually commiserates with the sacrifices made by the parent or mentor – the animosity and resentment of the 4^th House is largely absent.

Hillary’s Mom, Dorothy Howell Rodham

An even stronger example of this atypical Lilith is the impact on Dorothy Howell Rodham, the mother of Hillary Clinton.  Abandoned by her parents, the young Howell was sent unsupervised on a cross-country train to live with a grandmother so abusive that when she found Howell had gone trick-or-treating one Halloween, she ordered her confined to her room for a year, except to go to school.

At 15, Howell escaped the grandmother by going to work as a nanny for a family in San Gabriel, a position which paid $3.00 a week, and allowed her to attend high school.

In a particularly vicious attempt to exploit her daughter, Howell’s mother waited until she was 18, and then lured her back to Chicago, using the pretext that she would now be able to help Howell pay for college since she had remarried.  Upon her arrival, her mother instead said the offer was only to work as her housekeeper.  Howell fled her mother’s home, and never looked back.

Hillary Clinton has never been anything but supportive of her mother, who she credited as being one of her most important mentors, but a pattern of viciousness in the women of Clinton’s family tree leaves some questions about some of the colder aspects of Clinton’s personality.  Were I to side with her supporters, some of whom feel she is “twice the man” that Obama is, her mother’s lineage might have something to do with it.

When Lilith functions well…

There is a less bitter side to this unusual expression of 6^th House Lilith.  Sometimes the child or youth gets a mentor who teaches them astrology, the Tarot, the I Ching, and the runes, and passes on a wealth of mythic knowledge, which the child develops an early fascination with.  Or the mentor may teach the young person to negotiate an unfamiliar culture or to improve his language skills enough to be understood (Arnold Schwarzenegger).  Or this person may shield the child from overly critical teachers without spoiling him.  The young person gets a balanced introduction to alternative lifestyles, and may grow up with a foot in both worlds, so to speak.

Some Final Observations on “Mean” and “True” Lilith

Black Moon Lilith is known as “Mean” Lilith – this is the most commonly used calculation. The Moon's Node is only "true" about twice per month, when the Moon is actually on it, for the rest of the time, it is as "untrue" as the mean Node.

Most astrologers today are using “Mean” Lilith.  I have found “Mean” Lilith to be more accurate across the natal charts that I follow.  The fact that it is a calculated point, rather than an actual physical entity, seems to give it a greater number of predictive associations in each of the houses.  The same is true for Rahu and Ketu in the Vedic system, and this is what first alerted me to the same potential for Black Moon Lilith – I am convinced that modern western astrology misses out on much of the information encoded in Lilith’s house placement because our tradition is weaker with regard to calculated points.

Vedic astrologers identified an age of “maturation” for Rahu and Ketu – the age at which the calculated point gives a potent result in the native’s life, according to house placement.  While nothing this specific shows up across the board with BML, I have noticed that it tends to be more active in childhood (4^th House and 11^th House, and sometimes 3^rd House), late adolescence and young adulthood (6^th House, 7^th House, and sometimes 9^th House), mature parenthood (5^th House). 

Some people have a “heightened” Lilith that is active across the life span – these tend to be subjects with a tightly angular Mean Lilith, or in some cases, “True” Lilith, or those with either Lilith tightly conjunct a planet or fixed star. 

Fixed star conjunctions with Lilith affect everyone born across a given month – not all of these people experience Lilith strongly, or even perceptibly.   Where the native has several very tight fixed star conjunctions, Lilith tends to gather energy and manifest more strongly (Marilyn Monroe), but obviously even this phenomenon isn’t true for everyone.

Oscillating Lilith, or “True” Lilith, can show up in a subject’s life in rather unexpected ways, and should not be ignored, particularly if one perceives a heightened experience of Lilith in general.  When I first began writing this series, I felt certain of the 11^th House quality of my natal “Mean” Lilith, but as I worked my way through Lilith in each house, I had to acknowledge that it was my “True” Lilith partile conjunct Sirius just inside the 10^th House on the 11^th House cusp that probably exerted a greater influence on the publication of this series.

What's Next?

Lilith In The 5th House:  The Lottery Winner

What Did I Miss?

Lilith In The 7th House:  The Jilted Bride

SOURCES

Qualities of 6^th House Lilith – another excerpt of “Interpreting Lilith” by D.G. Jay

http://tribes.tribe.net/darkmoongoddesslilith/thread/b9376f06-b219-42b6-99be-b57e579bc428

Meaning of the fixed star, Talitha, at 2 degrees Leo

http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Talitha.html

Biography of Stephen King

http://www.horrorking.com/biography.html

Stephen King takes “responsibility” for a school shooting

http://www.forbes.com/sites/josephgrenny/2012/12/13/the-media-is-an-accomplice-in-public-shootings-a-call-for-a-stephen-king-law/

Hillary Clinton spends a lot of time on airplanes

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/hillary-clinton-traveled-956-733-miles-during-her-time-as-secretary-of-state/272656/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/hillary-clintons-overseas-diplomacy-versus-other-secretaries-of-state/2013/01/08/742f46b2-59f3-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_blog.html

Dorothy Rodham, Mother and Mentor of Hillary Clinton, Is Dead at 92

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/us/dorothy-rodham-mother-of-hillary-clinton-dies-at-92.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Celebrities with 6^th House BML

http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrities/lilith/m6/1.htm

Very comprehensive overview of Lilith, from ancient Mesopotamia to modern Wiccca

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/esp_sumer_annunaki15e.htm

A thoughtful analysis of the differences between “True” Lilith, asteroid Lilith, and Dark Moon Lilith, is included below, with keywords for each.  Kelly Hunter’s Black Moon Corridor is also discussed, a concept I have found useful in my own work with Lilith.

http://darkstarastrology.com/triple-moon-goddess-lilith-astrology/

JUNE 27, 2014 UPDATE

Hillary Clinton's birth time is controversial, and is now most widely reported as 8:02 am on Oct 26, 1947 in Chicago, IL.  There is talk of her birth time being 8:02 pm instead, and I used a birth time around 11:45 pm which was available on the Internet when I originally wrote this article.  In truth, her actual birth time may never be publicly known.

Various hypothetical birth times for Hillary all have points to recommend them (which explains why accurate rectification without a known birth time can be highly speculative).  For a more in-depth look at the question of Hillary's possible birth time, check out, "What Time Was Hillary Born?"